Eesti Elu: Estonia, Russia Clash On The Future Of Finno-Ugric Peoples

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Estonia, Russia clash on the future of Finno-Ugric peoples


04 Jul 2008 

Paul Goble


VIENNA – Estonian and Russian officials clashed over the weekend about the fate of the numerically small but politically sensitive Finno-Ugric nations in the Russian Federation, an exchange “Gazeta” said was the first “international scandal” in Dmitry Medvedev’s presidency and one that points to more problems ahead for these officials and their peoples.

In the course of the World Finno-Ugric Congress, Medvedev met with the presidents of Estonia, Finland and Hungary, the three independent Finno-Ugric states. His meetings with the leaders of Finland and Hungary reportedly went well, but his session with Estonia’s president Toomas Hendrik Ilves clearly did not.

Medvedev suggested that the two discuss “the remarkable number of problems” in the relations between Russia and Estonia, to which Ilves responded, speaking English rather than Estonian, that it would be a good thing if “the public rhetoric” surrounding their bilateral ties were to be dialed back.

But while the conversation between Medvedev and Ilves may have been somewhat tense, the problems really began with the remarks Ilves made after that session and with speeches delivered by others to the plenary sessions of the congress as well as with the comments officials and scholars offered about both sets of remarks.

In his speech, Ilves noted that only three of the 24 Finno-Ugric peoples had achieved independent statehood, something he implied that others should hope for even if the current prospects seem bleak: “Freedom and democracy were our choice 150 years ago when even poets did not yet dream about state independence,” he said.

“As soon as you get a taste of freedom,” the Estonian leader continued, “you will understand that this is a question of survival, without which it is impossible to operate.”

Not surprisingly, given the less than warm relations between Moscow and Tallinn – more than one Russian commentator noted that when there are general problems in a relationship, almost anything can be the occasion for a conflict – many of the delegates from the Russian Federation responded very negatively to the Estonian president’s statement.

Representatives of the Khanty-Mansiisk Autonomous District, for example, told Russian journalists in widely quoted remarks that they were surprised by Ilves’ remarks and that they could not imagine how they would cope “without Russia.”

But the strongest attack against Ilves came from Konstantin Kosachev, the chairman of the international affairs committee of the Duma and a frequent critic of the policies of the Baltic countries. “I consider,” he told journalists, that an attempt has again been made to politicize the Finno-Ugric process,” an action that he said was “extremely incorrect” at such a conclave.

He said that albeit “in a much camouflaged form,” Ilves had issued “certain appeals to the Finno-Ugric peoples of Russia to think about their own self-determination,” appeals that had left him angry and disappointed because he suggested it showed that “Estonia in the person of its president cannot see the forest for the trees.”

Then, when he delivered his speech to the congress, Kosachev expanded on these remarks. “One should not resolve problems by trying to sharpen ethnic conflicts,” he insisted, especially in the Russian Federation where “we have no problems with the survival and good neighborly relations of people of the most varied nationalities.”

In response to those words, the Estonian delegation including President Ilves stood up and left the hall. The audience applauded, according to Kosachev because they did not approve what the Estonians were doing but far more likely because so many of them, who have been and remain victims of Moscow’s policies, did.

Estonian officials were unanimous in saying that the Estonian delegation had done the right thing, standing up for their fellow Finno-Ugric nations and refusing to sit still for what they and Finnish President Tarja Halonen said was Kosachev’s tendentious account of the state of Finno-Ugric life in Russia.

But Russians were outraged. “Nezavisimaya gazeta” offered on June 30th the observations of three Moscow commentators. Valery Tishkov, the director of the Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology, dismissed the very idea of any “commonality of a Finno-Ugric world” – “at least from the political point of view.

It is “one thing” in Hungary, Finland and Estonia, “where these peoples are the titular” nationalities. “It is an entirely different thing in Russia where they are minorities” and where they are “not in such a catastrophic situation as some want to suggest.” Consequently, urging them to seek their own state is “a cover form of separatism.”

Tishkov who has often reacted angrily in the past to concern in Europe and more generally about the fate of the Finno-Ugric peoples of Russia, insisted that the government in Tallinn “would not permit a Russian or small Finno-Ugric minority in Estonia to define itself in this way.”

Konstantin Voronov, a senior researcher at the Institute of World Economy and International Relations (IMEMO) in Moscow, was equally dismissive, saying that the Finno-Ugric issue was a “‘sleeping’ problem, which “our Estonian partners want to politicize,” despite Moscow’s willingness to allow minorities autonomy as in Tatarstan and Chechnya.

And Dmitry Suslov, a researcher at the Council for Foreign and Defense Policy, summed up what Medvedev, Kosachev and all the others on the Russian side almost certainly feel. “This scandal cannot radically affect Russian-Estonian relations because today they are not in the best condition” given, among other things, last year’s dispute over the Bronze Soldier.

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Natpress: Would Ducational Books On “Adyghe Khabza” Be Published In Adygeya?

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Would educational books on “Adyghe Khabza” be published in  Adygeya?

The educational books on “Adyghe Khabza” (Adygeyan etiquette or under other version – Adygeyan lifestyle), prepared by the scientists and connoisseurs of Adygeya – winners of the last year’s competition, are ready for printing. About it Natpress was informed by the deputy minister of education and science Mariet Alieva.

As she said, the competition was organized under the initiative and in account on the financial means of the ex-president of Adygeya Khazret Sovmen. The premiums – for the first place 500 thousand, for the second 300 thousand, for third 200 thousand rubles – are awarded to the winners. However the premiums have not yet paid. How much money it will be required for the printing, they have not counted up yet, too.

According to the writer, the winner of the competition (third place) Nalby Kuek, under the conditions of the competition the premium for the victory in it should have been allocated in the last summer. “The former minister of education and science Anzaur Zhade, – Alieva explained in that occasion, – expected Sovmen to allocate it till the last moment”.

Now, after the political changes in the republic there is no clearness. But in any case, the responsibility on release of the books, and paying out of the premiums belongs to the ministry, Alieva notified.


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الجزيرة: أزمة القوقاز تفضح الطابع الشخصي لدبلوماسية بوش

28 أغسطس، 2008

الجزيرة: أزمة القوقاز تفضح الطابع الشخصي لدبلوماسية بوش

أزمة القوقاز تفضح الطابع الشخصي لدبلوماسية بوش

الأربعاء 26/8/1429 هـ – الموافق27/8/2008 م

شخصنة العلاقات أضرت دبلوماسية بوش (الفرنسية-أرشيف)اعتبر أحد أبرز الكتاب الصحفيين في الولايات المتحدة أن الأزمات التي اندلعت مؤخرا في جورجيا وباكستان دليل على عجز ما سماها “السياسة الشخصية” للرئيس الأميركي جورج بوش.
وذكر مايكل أبراموفيتز في مقال نشرته صحيفة واشنطن بوست اليوم أن انتقادات توجه إلى بوش بسبب الطابع الشخصي الذي يضفيه على علاقاته برئيس الوزراء الروسي فلاديمير بوتين والرئيس الباكستاني برويز مشرف الذي استقال الأسبوع الماضي.
وينسب الكاتب إلى خبراء في الشؤون الروسية قولهم إن بوش لم يدرك النوايا ولا الشخصية الحقيقية للزعيم الروسي, مقتبسا في هذا الصدد ما قاله المحاضر بجامعة ستانفورد مايكل مكفاول من أن الرئيس “أخطأ في الحكم على بوتين”.
وأضاف مكفاول –الذي يعمل مستشارا للشؤون الروسية لحملة المرشح الديمقراطي باراك أوباما- أنه منذ وقت مبكر كانت لبوتين “إستراتيجية كبيرة واضحة كل الوضوح للنكوص عن الديمقراطية”, ولكن “عندما ظهر دليل جديد يوحي بأن تقييمه الأولي لبوتين لم يكن صائبا, فإنه (أي بوش) ينزع إلى تجاهل تلك الحقيقة”.
ويمضي الكاتب مستعرضا بعض الحالات التي تعزز رأيه من بينها مثال من العراق حيث قضى بوش أوقاتا طويلة مع رئيس الوزراء نوري المالكي, خصوصا عبر مؤتمرات الفيديو, محاولا الصنع منه قائدا ديمقراطيا حقيقيا رغما عن اعتقاد بعض معاوني الرئيس الأميركي أن جهوده مضيعة للوقت.
على أن أبراموفيتز يستدرك في مقاله أن جهود بوش ربما تكون أثمرت إلى درجة أن ثقة المالكي المتزايدة بنفسه تشكل عائقا أمام تلك الجهود الرامية إلى إبرام اتفاق نهائي بشأن مستقبل الوجود العسكري الأميركي في العراق.
ويقول المسؤول السابق في إدارتي الرئيسين بيل كلينتون وجورج بوش الأب دينيس روس إن المالكي يثبت أنه زعيم أهم كثيرا مما يظن معظم أولئك الملتفين حول بوش.
ويعارض وزير الخارجية السابق هنري كيسينجر الرأي الشائع القائل إن بوش لم يحسن التعامل مع بوتين, مشيرا إلى أن بوش تعامل بدهاء منذ وقت مبكر عندما أبدى احترامه للزعيم الروسي وحاول استمالته للتعاون معه في العديد من القضايا.
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Natpress: Maykop Established Sponsor’s “Rate” For Parents Wanting To Give…

Maykop established sponsor’s “rate” for parents wanting to give their babies to kindergartens

In the turn for getting for the child a place in the kindergartens of Adygeya capital there are 1200 people. The time of waiting for the parents in that turn varies from one year up to a year and a half. “But there is a way to not stand in the turn”, – the head of management on education of Maykop municipal administration Galina Duginova informed today on January 15 on the republican TV.

“I do not know, how the parents name it, but we name it a target payment”, – she told in particular. As she said, those target payments are accepted according to the order of the mayor in the form of help to a preschool establishment that takes a child.

The sum of such target payment, the chief of management on education explained, varies from 2 up to 5 thousand rubles – depending on the kindergarten.

Let’s note, in average Maykop kindergartens are filled in 140 %; in the town centre that percent reaches 200. The basic reason is that over a half of the kindergartens worked in the Soviet time, now is used on other purposes.


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كازبك “أسد شركيسيا”

كازبك “أسد شركيسيا”

كان هناك رجل شركسي (وربما لايزال حيا) يدعى “كوزبك” وقد حصل لنفسه على لقب “أسد شركيسيا”.
وكان دائما يقود عصبة قليلة من الرّجال لمهاجمة الرّوس.

وفي يوم وجد بعض الجنود الرّوس يحصدون في الحقول، وعندما اقترب منهم فرّوا من شدة الرّعب، تاركين ورائهم مائتا منجل، قام بالاستيلاء عليها.

ولكن فاجعة كبيرة حلّت بالبطل. فقد كان عنده ولد واحد. وعندما قاده الى الحروب حثّه بعدم التّراجع أمام العدو نهائيّا، ولكن بشق طريقه من الوسط.

وفي يوم من الأيّام قام كازبك باجتياح مجموعة كثيفة من الجنود الروس، عندما اخترقت حصانه فجأة، رصاصة مما أدّى الى اندفاعه للامام على الارض. وهناك وقع الاسد بين الصيادين.

وفي خلال لحظة اخرى كان من الممكن ان يقتل فيها، هبّ فجاة محارب صغير لنجدته، وكان ابنه. ولكن ماذا يمكن ان يفعل شخص واحد مقابل هذا العدد!

مجموعة من الخيّالة الشراكسة هرعوا الى المكان وحملوا كازبك بعيدا، لكنهم كانوا متأخّرين جدا لانقاذ ابنه.
وحملوا بعيدا جثة الولد الشجاع. حزن كازبك حزنا عميقا؛ لكنه واصل القتال من أجل وطنه.

انظر الى هذه الأكوام السّوداء من الرماد. في هذه البقعة في قديم الزمان عاش أمير يدعى “صفر بى” مع
أربعمائة من خدمه؛ ولكن المساكن الخاصّة به أحرقت وسوّيت بالارض من قبل الرّوس.

وفرّ ذلك الأمير الى تركيّا طالبا المساعدة، ماذا كان يمكن ان يحدث لزوجته وبناته الصغيرات، لو لم يتعهّدهم صديق لطيف برعايته؟

وهذاالصّديق كان أحدبا، ولكن شجاعا جدّا.

ذهب لزيارته بعض الرّحّالة الانجليز، واستقبلوا في بيت الضيافة واستمتعوا بمائدة العشاء الممدودة على طاولات عديدة.

وفي اليوم التالي أتت الفتيات الى بيت الضيافة وقبّلوا اياديهم، برفقة ابنة الأحدب.

وفرح الاطفال ببعض الألعاب التي اعطاهم ايّاها الرّحّالة، والسيدة اللطيفة الصغيرة تقبّلت بعض الابر والمقصّات كهدايا.

ولكن أين كانت زوجة “صفربى”؟ أرسلوا خادمة للاستفسار عنها، ووجدوها في خرق بالية و متمدّدة على حصيرة وحتّى بدون لحاف، وكانت تبكي بمرارة.

ألم يعطها احد ملابس وأغطيه؟ نعم، ولكنها وهبت كل شيء، لانها استعملتها كأميرة، لتقديم الهدايا، والآن هي لاتهتم لأيّ شيء.

هذه هي بعض المآسي التي تجلبها روسيا الى شركيسيا.

المصدر: شيركيسيان وورلد

كفكاز سنتر
29 مايو/أيّار 2007

ترجمة: مجموعة العدالة لشمال القوقاز

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Natpress: Adygeya customhouse’s chief calls to refuse political estimations…

Adygeya Customhouse’s Chief Calls To Refuse Political Estimations Of His Department’s Liquidation

The chief of the Adygeya republican customhouse Jury Bljagoz considers that the situation around of the order on liquidation of the department he headed should not be explained with some political reasons. He declared it in the conversation with IА REGNUM correspondent. As he said, he read information in press and was grateful to people who showed their sincere sympathy, but at the same time he called for careful selectivity in the forms of such support.

In his opinion, parameters of the work of the customhouse have been already the convincing argument for its protection. 203,7 million rubles the customhouse transferred to the federal budget for 11 months of this year made 146 percent of the level of the similar period of the last year or 135 percent of the sum for 2005. The employees of the customhouse, participating in the professional competitions, always come back with prize-winning places. The same can be said about the special dog-training service.

From his part the head of the customhouse addressed to the speaker of the State Soviet-Khase of Adygeya Ruslan Hadjebiekov, to the head of the republican Cabinet Kazbek Paranuk as he did not lose his hope that the situation could be changed.

The co-chairman of the republican public organization “Khabza” Askerby Namitokov, speaking about the order on the customhouse, mentioned that the document would be difficult to not name political and to not connect it with the recent attempts of the republic’s liquidation. The point is not just that the customhouse transferred 203,7 million rubles to the budget though that figure for the republic is rather considerable. With the customhouse’s closing from the republic many enterprises ‘will leave’ where they are. Therefore, if it was not a political action, than at least, anti-economic.

Let’s remind: the order on liquidation of Adygeya customhouse was promulgated on November 30th this year. It should be disbanded by February 1st, 2007.


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Window On Eurasia: Russian Groups Intended To Promote Law and Order In Fact Undermine It

Saturday, November 22, 2008


Window on Eurasia: Russian Groups Intended to Promote Law and Order in Fact Undermine It

Paul Goble

Tallinn, November 22 – A senior official of the Moscow Patriarchate of the Russian Orthodox Church has called for the establishment of Orthodox “druzhiny” groups to promote law and order, and a senior official of the Russian interior ministry says the government will consider backing this idea.
But such unofficial squads, which have their roots in the Soviet past, not only highlight the breakdown in public order in that country and the inability of the authorities to enforce the law but also are likely to exacerbate ethnic, religious and other divisions as one group arms itself to protect its members against another.
That is because the Orthodox Church is not the only entrant in this already crowded field. Local community groups in places like Moscow’s Khimki district, Muslim groups in various parts of the country, and members of various non-Russian migrant communities have already taken this step or are thinking about doing so.
And if the Orthodox Church gains the imprimatur of the state in this area, even more groups will likely seek to defend themselves by organizing and even arming such groups, a recipe in the short term for violent clashes rather than public order and ultimately for more government repression rather than the emergence of civil society.
During a radio interview on Wednesday evening, Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin, deputy chief of the Patriarchate’s powerful External Affairs Department, said that Orthodox citizens should create “druzhiny” squads to take back the streets from those who in one way or another are disturbing the peace (
The next day, Valery Gribakin, a senior official of the Russian interior ministry, said that the Russian government would actively consider this because the ministry is “interested in the help of any public movements and organizations in the support of public order in Russian population points” (
He said that the interior ministry is already cooperating with 36,000 such groups, who have a combined membership of 380,000, and “with their active help,” during the first nine months of 2008 alone, more than 31,000 crimes were identified, 14,000 criminals were arrested, and 360,000 violations of the law were prevented.
But even as he appeared to welcome Chaplin’s proposal, Gribakin noted that existing legislation in this area gives the regions the option to permit or ban such groups. As a result, there are a variety of arrangements from a complete ban to broad cooperation. Today, he said, approximately 70 percent have some rules on the books.
Some Orthodox groups are not waiting for ministerial approval. Kirill Frolov, head of the Moscow section of the Russian nationalist Union of Orthodox Citizens, told “Kommersant” that his group is forming these groups within the Society of St. Thomas and would be ready to start on December 1 (
Other non-Orthodox groups are doing the same, and more are likely to enter the fray in the near term, with at least a few of them “arming themselves within the limits of the law,” in the words of one activist, and thus becoming a threat to public order in various Russian locations in and of themselves (
While some nationalists are enthusiastic ( and media outlets are having fun talking about the church’s “army” (, more thoughtful observers are concerned about the impact of such groups on the church itself and on Russian society more broadly.
Some are asking whether the Church should be getting involved in this public function, something that could undercut its message of peace and brotherhood and link the Orthodox Church even more closely to a state that has all too often demonstrated that it is not that interested in that message (
Meanwhile, the human rights community has criticized the measure on other grounds. Lev Ponomaryev, the head of the For Human Rights Movement, argues that calls to create such groups calls attention to the inability of the duly constituted authorities to maintain order and thus invites more lawlessness (
And Svetlana Gannushkina, a member of the Civic Support Committee, said that church leaders should focus on communicating their faith from the pulpit rather than organizing quasi-policy agencies. She suggested that there was one possible exception: Let’s begin, she said, ‘by setting up of Buddhist public order squads. They are more peaceful and very sympathetic.”

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